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Prozac, used by 40m people, does not work say scientists

I am posting this because on a recent course on responding to suicidal behaviour, I suggested that fluoxetine (Prozac), paroxetine (Seroxat), venlafaxine (Effexor) and nefazodone (Serzone) were far less effective than previously thought. One participant asked about the evidence, so here it is. happy reading! Iain Bourne

Analysis of unseen trials and other data concludes it is no better than placebo

Prozac, the bestselling antidepressant taken by 40 million people worldwide, does not work and nor do similar drugs in the same class, according to a major review released today.

The study examined all available data on the drugs, including results from clinical trials that the manufacturers chose not to publish at the time. The trials compared the effect on patients taking the drugs with those given a placebo or sugar pill.

When all the data was pulled together, it appeared that patients had improved – but those on placebo improved just as much as those on the drugs.

The only exception is in the most severely depressed patients, according to the authors – Prof Irving Kirsch from the department of psychology at Hull University and colleagues in the US and Canada. But that is probably because the placebo stopped working so well, they say, rather than the drugs having worked better.

“Given these results, there seems little reason to prescribe antidepressant medication to any but the most severely depressed patients, unless alternative treatments have failed,” says Kirsch. “This study raises serious issues that need to be addressed surrounding drug licensing and how drug trial data is reported.”

The paper, published today in the journal PLoS (Public Library of Science) Medicine, is likely to have a significant impact on the prescribing of the drugs. The National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence (Nice) already recommends that counselling should be tried before doctors prescribe antidepressants. Kirsch, who was one of the consultants for the guidelines, says the new analysis “would suggest that the prescription of antidepressant medications might be restricted even more”.

The review breaks new ground because Kirsch and his colleagues have obtained for the first time what they believe is a full set of trial data for four antidepressants.

They requested the full data under freedom of information rules from the Food and Drug Administration, which licenses medicines in the US and requires all data when it makes a decision.

The pattern they saw from the trial results of fluoxetine (Prozac), paroxetine (Seroxat), venlafaxine (Effexor) and nefazodone (Serzone) was consistent. “Using complete data sets (including unpublished data) and a substantially larger data set of this type than has been previously reported, we find the overall effect of new-generation antidepressant medication is below recommended criteria for clinical significance,” they write.

Two more frequently prescribed antidepressants were omitted from the study because scientists were unable to obtain all the data.

Concerns have been raised in recent years about the side-effects of this class of antidepressant. Evidence that they could prompt some young people to consider suicide led to a warning to doctors not to prescribe them for the under-18s – with the exception of Prozac, which was considered more effective than the rest.

In adults, however, the depression-beating benefits were thought to outweigh the risks. Since its launch in the US in 1988, some 40 million people have taken Prozac, earning tens of billions of dollars for the manufacturer, Eli Lilly. Although the patent lapsed in 2001, fluoxetine continues to make the company money – it is now the active ingredient in Sarafem, a pill sold by Lilly for premenstrual syndrome.

Eli Lilly was defiant last night. “Extensive scientific and medical experience has demonstrated that fluoxetine is an effective antidepressant,” it said in a statement. “Since its discovery in 1972, fluoxetine has become one of the world’s most-studied medicines. Lilly is proud of the difference fluoxetine has made to millions of people living with depression.”

A spokesman for GlaxoSmithKline, which makes Seroxat, said the authors had failed to acknowledge the “very positive” benefits of the treatment and their conclusions were “at odds with what has been seen in actual clinical practice”.

He added: “This analysis has only examined a small subset of the total data available while regulatory bodies around the world have conducted extensive reviews and evaluations of all the data available, and this one study should not be used to cause unnecessary alarm and concern for patients.”

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New Imaging Research Reveals Dysfunction In The Brain’s “Hub” In The Earliest Stages Of Schizophrenia

Although the following article is not new, I’m putting it up in response to some enquiries relating to the thalamus and hallucinations. Happy reading! Iain Bourne

ScienceDaily (Jan. 1, 2001) — A new brain imaging study from the Institute of Psychiatry shows for the first time that the thalamus, the brain’s main sensory filter or ‘hub’, is smaller than normal from the earliest stages of schizophrenia. The findings, published in the American Journal of Psychiatry in January, may explain why people with schizophrenia experience confusion during their illness. The thalamus is the area where information is received and relayed to other areas of the brain. It is of particular interest in schizophrenia because of the role it plays in processing information. The thalamus receives information via the senses, which is then filtered and passed to the correct regions of the brain for processing. People with schizophrenia often have difficulties in processing information properly and as a result may end up with an information overload in some areas of the brain. This study, led by Dr Tonmoy Sharma, involved 67 participants: 38 were experiencing their first episode of psychosis and 29 were healthy volunteers. In contrast to other studies, thirteen of the people with schizophrenia had no or little experience of antipsychotic medication. Magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) scans identified differences in the thalamus between the two groups. Previous MRI studies have identified several brain regions affected by schizophrenia, but the results in the thalamus have been inconclusive. This study finds that even in the earliest stages of schizophrenia the thalamus is smaller than in healthy people. Dr Tonmoy Sharma said: “This study reveals that there is a fundamental problem in the hub of the brain. If you think of the brain in terms of networks, it is like making a phone call when the line is not connected properly, the call can’t be made, or you may get through to the wrong person. It is the same in the brain. If there are problems with the connections, information will not be passed to the correct regions. The ability to filter and process information is vital for leading a normal life.” These findings, along with a recent study from Dr Sharma’s team that showed people with schizophrenia have decreased grey matter at the earliest stages of the illness suggest a role for brain imaging in pinpointing warning signs of the illness and even preventing its development.

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Dundee & Edinburgh: Difficult, Disturbing and Dangerous Behaviour

If you you are looking for a DDDB course in Scotland, Blue Skye Consultancy are offering places in Dundee on 30th April and Edinburgh on 1st May. Details and Booking forms can be found at:

http://blueskyeconsultancy.co.uk/dddbcourse.htm

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Iain’s Blog has Moved!

Unfortunately I couldn’t edit my blog using my 3G card and laptop which made it pretty much useless. So now I’ve restarted the blog at a newsite:

www.dangeroustrainer.worrdpress.com

Hope  you will visit!

Iain

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Suicide & Self-Harm – Individual Places Available on Course in Nottingham

There are still a few places available on the “Razor’s Edge” course in Nottingham. If you are interested, the course is on 23-24th March 2009 and is organised by Nottingham HLG. You can book via the HLG website:

http://www.hlg.org.uk/trainingsubmit.htm

Or contact HLG’s Training Co-ordinator on 0115 956 5313 or email admin@hlg.org.uk

Information about the course can be found at:

http://www.hlg.org.uk/TrngRazEdge.htm

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Razors Edge – Working with People who Self-Harm – 5 Places in Nottingham

This course hosted by Nottingham HLG is being held on Mon 23 & Tues 24 March 2009. Currently there are 5 places left. If you are interested go to:

http://www.hlg.org.uk/TrngRazEdge.htm

or book at

Email: admin@hlg.org.uk Online:http://www.hlg.org.uk/trainingsubmit.htm Phone: 0115 8599525

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Open Difficult, Disturbing and Dangerous Behaviour Course in Brighton

If you are interested in attending a one-day DDDB course in Brighton ob 28th April 2009 please contact

http://www.rocc.org.uk/training/course?id=215

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Open Difficult, Disturbing & Dangeroous Behaviour Course in Southampton

If you are interested in attending a DDDB one-day course on 23rd Aprl in Southampton please contact ROCC at:

http://www.rocc.org.uk/training/course?id=213

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Calendar – Free Training Dates

One of the biggest problems in arranging in-house training courses is finding mutually convenient dates. Now, at least, you can see which dates are not possible – just click on the link below.


http://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=impact%40dangerousbehaviour.com&ctz=Europe/London

Thanks

Iain Bourne

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“Razor’s Edge” Course in Nottingham

Dealing with Suicide and Self-Harm, faciltated by Iain Bourne on 22nd and 23rd March and organised by Nottingham HLG (Kevin O’Connor). Follow the link below:

http://www.hlg.org.uk/training.htm

But be quick, there’s only one place left!

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